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# Watch WebRTC Live #64: Pivoting Back to Hybrid Meetings

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For our 64th episode of WebRTC Live, Arin welcomed back Lorenzo Miniero, Chairman of real-time communications experts [Meetecho](https://www.meetecho.com/en/) and Founder of the [Janus WebRTC media server](https://janus.conf.meetecho.com/) to discuss hybrid events, a growing and fascinating use case for [WebRTC](https://webrtc.ventures/2021/01/what-is-webrtc/).

While the topic of the day was Meetecho’s experience and lessons learned in this journey there and back again to a more intensive hybrid meeting experience, the episode started with a nod to the upcoming 8th birthday of Janus and the coinciding release of Janus 1.0, which constitutes a considerable refactoring of the internals of Janus itself.

After a brief remote music collaboration celebration by Arin and [Nimble Ape](https://nimblea.pe/) and [broadcaster.vc](https://broadcaster.vc/)‘s Dan Jenkins (look for it at 9:22!), Lorenzo reflected on these milestones and the improvements that Janus 1.0 will bring, including the ability to put more than one video or audio stream inside the same peer connection.

## There and back again

Prior to the pandemic, real-time communication companies like Meetecho already provided limited forms of remote support to events such as the [IETF](https://www.ietf.org/) meetings. Lorenzo explained how these worked in the past.

With the pandemic, they moved to completely virtual. More on how Meetecho created a scalable virtual event platform can be found in Lorenzo’s [CommCon 2020 presentation](https://2020.commcon.xyz/session/turning-live-events-to-virtual-with-janus).

While we are starting to meet in person again, large numbers of conference speakers and attendees will not return in person for some time, if ever.

## Great hybrid events, courtesy of WebRTC!

This March’s [IETF 113](https://www.ietf.org/blog/ietf113-registration-open/) will be a hybrid onsite/online meeting in Vienna, Austria. In a change from previous meetings, all participants, both onsite and remote, will need to use the Meetecho remote participation service in order to participate. Changes to make this possible include:

- The audio backend is now the [Janus AudioBridge](https://janus.conf.meetecho.com/audiobridgetest.html), not SIP
- Local video sources will use WebRTC, not plain RTP. This will be done on the same equipment as before: [Pion](https://pion.ly/) + [FFmpeg](https://www.ffmpeg.org/)/[GStreamer](https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/) on the same [Raspberry Pi](https://www.raspberrypi.org/). Lorenzo noted this could be done with [WHIP](https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-wish-whip-01.html) in the future. This is a new IETF standard that is targeted on facilitating WebRTC ingestion for broadcasting.
- Additional cameras
- WebRTC screen sharing even for local slides, rather that splitting projector output
- Queue management for moderators within Meetecho application
- Remotely-controlled preloaded slides

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